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Monday, January 28, 2008

Tweetmeme, a Copy of Techmeme For Twitter But Mostly Not In English

The idea behind Tweetmeme seems pretty simple: look at Techmeme and copy that but based around Twitter rather than tech blogs. It has some potential functionality-wise and with the rabid users of Twitter but I see a couple problems with it right off the bat. 1) they need some kind of language filter pronto. 2) It's all entirely based around links on Twitter, which Twitter is still not very friendly with.

First off on the language front, I'm not trying to sound like an arogant American, but I simply cannot read about half the things on the main page of Tweetmeme and the subpages are even worse. We've got Japanese, Chinese, German, Spanish. It's great these countries are so actively involved, but can we please get a language filter going? I'm sure not all of them want to read English either.

The 2nd part speaks to a larger problem I've had with Twitter for a while - it's really bad at handling hyperlinks. In my experience sometimes it will encode them as tinyurls (I'm talking about the web-based app here), sometimes it won't. Many times I have to encode them myself, which is a visit to another site that I simply shouldn't have to make. Pownce runs circles around Twitter in this regard as they have a separate URL field with which to share links.

This matters for Tweetmeme because every conversation is formed based around a common link people have tweeted. One interesting aspect that Tweetmeme does have is the ability to apparently tell if a URL is a blog, an image, a video, or an audio file. This ability to sort could be very helpful in finding new hot links on Twitter based on what you are looking for.

Tweetmeme also fails to thank Techmeme in their initial blog post thank yous - which they probably should given that nearly every aspect of the Tweetmeme layout is identical to Techmeme's layout. 'Top Items'? Check. 'New Item Finder'? Check. A "river"? Check. Upper right-hand corner timestamp? Check. Ads in the same place? Check. Subscribe area in the same place? Check. Archive in the same place? Check.

TechCrunch thinks Tweetmeme will turn into a game for people based around who can find the next hot link first so they'll be the "leader" of the "coversation". Certainly I could see that happening, but until Twitter itself gets serious about hyperlinks, you probably won't be finding me too often on Tweetmeme.


[UPDATE]: Here are two more somewhat similar sites to check out that were left in the comments. The first is PownceMeme - which I'm sure you can imagine what it does. The second is Hashtags which tracks Twitter usage based on the usage of the hash sign followed by a word rather than links. [thanks Bryan and Rod]

6 comments:

Nick Halstead said...

On the URL front - Tweetmeme does resolve all URL's correctly, as we do not compare the raw URL - we translate it (irrelevant of service) before comparing if we have seen that URL before.

On languages, yes we agree, people need to be able to choose the language and filter out the rest, this will come very soon.

MG Siegler said...

@nick - thanks for the info. good to know.

i'll be watching out for that language filter and then looking for some good links.

Nicole Simon said...

Why is it that when something is not in english, you scream for a language filter but everytime somebody non native english asks for one gets negative remarks about not being sensible?

Of course there needs to be language filters, and the whole industry would have a much wider reach and success if they finally would get it.

bryan pearson said...

I made something similar to that, but its only scanning Pownce.com links and content.

Its having a few issues right now with photos, but its along the same principals as TweetMeme.

Find it at PownceMeme.com and let me know what you think.

rod / techfold.com said...

MG - I asked Mark Evans this too; care to compare/contrast Tweetmeme to the Hashtags execution?

http://techfold.com/2007/12/18/another-tag-silo-twitter-hashtags/

MG Siegler said...

@nicole - i don't think i've ever said anything like that. seems fair that all languages should be treated equally - and the language filter is coming so that'll be good.

@bryan - i think if you get those pictures working you've got a great site there. i would for sure use that for Pownce where I often have trouble finding new interesting things due to what I see as lack of upates - where on Twitter there is already arguably too much to go through. Also Pownce seems much more attuned to some service like this seeing as it encourage picture/video/link postings.

@rod - i find hashtags to be much more useful but because it requires a couple slight modifications on the way people use twitter for it to work, others may disagree. of course I say that as well already having stated that I don't share all that many links on Twitter, so of course a service that doesn't rely on links to work will be of more use to me personally.

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